Comments on: Gary Taubes Interview with Seth Roberts http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/ Respect Your Food. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:56:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Migraineur http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4078 Migraineur Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:30:53 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4078 "Most of my friends think I’m a bit nutty too, though I don’t really talk about nutrition to them because they aren’t interested." Gee, I thought I was the only person who was opinionated in the blogosphere and kept my mouth shut in private. I'm down 20 lbs now, and people are beginning to notice, but I still don't tell people how I've done it unless they ask. Oddly, no one asks. “Most of my friends think I’m a bit nutty too, though I don’t really talk about nutrition to them because they aren’t interested.”

Gee, I thought I was the only person who was opinionated in the blogosphere and kept my mouth shut in private. I’m down 20 lbs now, and people are beginning to notice, but I still don’t tell people how I’ve done it unless they ask. Oddly, no one asks.

]]> By: DaveC http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4060 DaveC Thu, 20 Mar 2008 01:53:08 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4060 I went back through the interview again this evening while archiving it (Scrapbook is a great add-on for you Firefox users) and something popped out at me that I thought was interesting. Taubes pointed out that although he would like to see his book bring about instant change, that the most likely scenario for it having any affect is that students of today will read it and question their instructors as they go forth. It's going to take a few years for this one to play out. I went back through the interview again this evening while archiving it (Scrapbook is a great add-on for you Firefox users) and something popped out at me that I thought was interesting. Taubes pointed out that although he would like to see his book bring about instant change, that the most likely scenario for it having any affect is that students of today will read it and question their instructors as they go forth. It’s going to take a few years for this one to play out.

]]> By: Terry http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4057 Terry Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:27:33 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4057 Thanks for the interview link. I haven't been able to get Gary's book yet so I've been reading all I can find online related to it. I have always thought of eating well as part of living well. I'm truly puzzled that anyone would think "living it up" is "living well". Sure, "living it up" once in awhile is fine and fun but living well has always been a quality thing to me. Eat well(for both optimal health and enjoyment), sleep well, work well, play nice, following the golden rule, don't make enemies if you can avoid it, stand by your friends and your principles... these are what living well means to me. Thanks for the interview link. I haven’t been able to get Gary’s book yet so I’ve been reading all I can find online related to it.

I have always thought of eating well as part of living well. I’m truly puzzled that anyone would think “living it up” is “living well”. Sure, “living it up” once in awhile is fine and fun but living well has always been a quality thing to me. Eat well(for both optimal health and enjoyment), sleep well, work well, play nice, following the golden rule, don’t make enemies if you can avoid it, stand by your friends and your principles… these are what living well means to me.

]]> By: Scott Kustes http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4056 Scott Kustes Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4056 Derek, nothing wrong with beer and hot wings now and again. Gotta "live a litte" (sorry, I had to! :-D). Seriously though, I find that the things I enjoy are actually more enjoyable the less often I have them. When it's truly a treat and not just another meal, I enjoy it a good deal more. Kat, most of my friends think I'm a bit nutty too, though I don't really talk about nutrition to them because they aren't interested. All we can do is smile and go on our merry ways. Alex, sounds like all the personal anecdote you need to know to stay on course. Debs, you nailed it. It's the overly aggressive sugary, salty tastes that we've become accustomed to that keeps us from enjoying the sweetness of a carrot. Dave, have them mail me the bill. ;) Migraineur, that's a sad story and a points out how obvious it is that food and vices don't make us happy. Few people lay on their death beds wishing they'd eaten just one more Big Mac. Perhaps we could reply to "live a little" with "you live a little. I'm already living a lot." Cheers all Scott Derek, nothing wrong with beer and hot wings now and again. Gotta “live a litte” (sorry, I had to! :-D). Seriously though, I find that the things I enjoy are actually more enjoyable the less often I have them. When it’s truly a treat and not just another meal, I enjoy it a good deal more.

Kat, most of my friends think I’m a bit nutty too, though I don’t really talk about nutrition to them because they aren’t interested. All we can do is smile and go on our merry ways.

Alex, sounds like all the personal anecdote you need to know to stay on course.

Debs, you nailed it. It’s the overly aggressive sugary, salty tastes that we’ve become accustomed to that keeps us from enjoying the sweetness of a carrot.

Dave, have them mail me the bill. ;)
Migraineur, that’s a sad story and a points out how obvious it is that food and vices don’t make us happy. Few people lay on their death beds wishing they’d eaten just one more Big Mac.

Perhaps we could reply to “live a little” with “you live a little. I’m already living a lot.”

Cheers all
Scott

]]> By: Migraineur http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4054 Migraineur Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:51:02 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4054 I had a family member who smoked and ate the worst foods imaginable. He used to say, "At least I'll die happy." He didn't die happy. He died a miserable death from lung cancer. For the last ten years of his life, it was a toss up whether it was going to be diabetes or complications from smoking that did him in. And aren't the "live a little" people are the same ones who are critical of my lifestyle because it's too expensive? Buying marvelous grass fed beef at $20/lb is <i>my</i> way of living a little! "They might say 'live a little', I’m living better than they are." I <i>have</i> to use that line. Thanks, Kat. I had a family member who smoked and ate the worst foods imaginable. He used to say, “At least I’ll die happy.”

He didn’t die happy. He died a miserable death from lung cancer. For the last ten years of his life, it was a toss up whether it was going to be diabetes or complications from smoking that did him in.

And aren’t the “live a little” people are the same ones who are critical of my lifestyle because it’s too expensive? Buying marvelous grass fed beef at $20/lb is my way of living a little!

“They might say ‘live a little’, I’m living better than they are.” I have to use that line. Thanks, Kat.

]]> By: DaveC http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4047 DaveC Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:02:46 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4047 Another hour of lost productivity at work reading the interview--my employer will be billing you, Scott! :-) Great stuff and it came at a good time. The front table at the office was full of cake and bakery items. I had my apple and almonds for a snack! Dave <a href="http://davegetsfit.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">DaveGetsFit</a> Another hour of lost productivity at work reading the interview–my employer will be billing you, Scott! :-)

Great stuff and it came at a good time. The front table at the office was full of cake and bakery items. I had my apple and almonds for a snack!

Dave
DaveGetsFit

]]> By: Debs http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4046 Debs Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:01:09 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4046 I think people have gotten into the habit of thinking bad food tastes good. It has a lot to do with what food you were raised eating; tastes can shift dramatically in one generation. When you're raised thinking of McDonalds as a treat, it's hard to break out of that in adulthood. I feel lucky to have been raised eating good, fresh food. It also has a lot to do with overstimulation. When our tastebuds (and brains) are bombarded with sugar, MSG, and other strong, non-subtle flavors, we adjust to thinking of those as delicious. There's a strong case for an addiction-like component as well. Thanks for the Gary Taubes interview link; I'm reading the book, and will read the interview as well. <a href="http://food.gofrolic.org">Food Is Love</a> I think people have gotten into the habit of thinking bad food tastes good. It has a lot to do with what food you were raised eating; tastes can shift dramatically in one generation. When you’re raised thinking of McDonalds as a treat, it’s hard to break out of that in adulthood. I feel lucky to have been raised eating good, fresh food.

It also has a lot to do with overstimulation. When our tastebuds (and brains) are bombarded with sugar, MSG, and other strong, non-subtle flavors, we adjust to thinking of those as delicious. There’s a strong case for an addiction-like component as well.

Thanks for the Gary Taubes interview link; I’m reading the book, and will read the interview as well.

Food Is Love

]]> By: Alex http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4045 Alex Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:14:18 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4045 If I had a dollar for every "live a little" I've heard. When I'm "off" my regular EF/Paleo/whatever you call it way of eating, I feel awful, my skin breaks out, and I gain weight. How great is that and how great does that make me feel? Is that "living a little?" If so, you can keep it. Great post and great comments. I'm going to use that line - I'm one of those people who eats for health and longevity - next time I get the "you are one of those people" comments. If I had a dollar for every “live a little” I’ve heard. When I’m “off” my regular EF/Paleo/whatever you call it way of eating, I feel awful, my skin breaks out, and I gain weight. How great is that and how great does that make me feel? Is that “living a little?” If so, you can keep it.

Great post and great comments. I’m going to use that line - I’m one of those people who eats for health and longevity - next time I get the “you are one of those people” comments.

]]> By: Kat http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4042 Kat Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:09:59 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4042 I love eating healthy good tasting foods which I have switched to from the SAD because of health reasons. My friends always think I'm crazy or feel sorry for me. Then they eat my food (at a potluck or dinner party) and "ohh and ahh" over it. The next day they'll still say that I'm crazy or feel sorry for me. Short-term memory loss? I don't get it. I don't feel sorry for me, I'm eating great tasting food that has the added benefit of also making me feel great! They might say "live a little", I'm living better than they are. I love eating healthy good tasting foods which I have switched to from the SAD because of health reasons. My friends always think I’m crazy or feel sorry for me. Then they eat my food (at a potluck or dinner party) and “ohh and ahh” over it. The next day they’ll still say that I’m crazy or feel sorry for me. Short-term memory loss? I don’t get it. I don’t feel sorry for me, I’m eating great tasting food that has the added benefit of also making me feel great! They might say “live a little”, I’m living better than they are.

]]> By: Derek Simonds http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4041 Derek Simonds Wed, 19 Mar 2008 13:39:38 +0000 http://www.modernforager.com/blog/2008/03/19/gary-taubes-interview-with-seth-roberts/#comment-4041 Excellent point. I love steak and broccoli, in fact my entire family loves steak and broccoli that is what both of my kids wanted for their birthday dinners this year. It is weird the perception of other people, when I am at a business dinner and I pass on the bread I always hear oh you are one of those people. Yes I am. One of those people who eats for health and longevity. I will confess that every once in a while I do enjoy beer and hot wings. Excellent point. I love steak and broccoli, in fact my entire family loves steak and broccoli that is what both of my kids wanted for their birthday dinners this year.

It is weird the perception of other people, when I am at a business dinner and I pass on the bread I always hear oh you are one of those people. Yes I am. One of those people who eats for health and longevity.

I will confess that every once in a while I do enjoy beer and hot wings.

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